I was about to delete an offensive comment on this blog – one of the very few we get – and thought, hmm, I wonder where this guy is posting from? Because, really, it is quite unusual for us to get nasty comments. Lo and behold, the troll posted to our website from an IP address controlled by the federal government’s Department of Homeland Security! Here is the taxpayer-funded troll’s gem of a comment, for your entertainment:

Fuck you, Fuck all you cocksuckers, you wont change anything. ride the bus, TSA is here to stay there doing a great job keeping americia safe.

(Later, I checked our comment database and found 19 more of these gems from the same IP address. See below.)

Here is a link to the screenshot of the WordPress comment. As you can see, the IP address it was posted from is 216.81.80.134. Here is the publicly accessible whois record for that IP:

NetRange: 216.81.80.0 – 216.81.95.255
CIDR: 216.81.80.0/20
OriginAS:
NetName: ONENET
NetHandle: NET-216-81-80-0-1
Parent: NET-216-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: NS5.DHS.GOV
NameServer: NS6.DHS.GOV
NameServer: NS3.DHS.GOV
NameServer: NS4.DHS.GOV
RegDate: 2008-05-07
Updated: 2009-09-01
Ref: https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-216-81-80-0-1

OrgName: DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
OrgId: DHS-37
Address: 7681 BOSTON BLVD
Address: NDC I
City: SPRINGFIELD
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 22153
Country: US
RegDate: 2005-12-05
Updated: 2008-05-22
Ref: https://whois.arin.net/rest/org/DHS-37

OrgTechHandle: DIA9-ARIN
OrgTechName: DHS IPv6 ADMINISTRATION
OrgTechPhone: +1-703-921-7595
OrgTechEmail: [email protected]
OrgTechRef: https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/DIA9-ARIN

OrgNOCHandle: DIA9-ARIN
OrgNOCName: DHS IPv6 ADMINISTRATION
OrgNOCPhone: +1-703-921-7595
OrgNOCEmail: [email protected]
OrgNOCRef: https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/DIA9-ARIN

Some questions come to mind:

  • Is this an official statement?
  • If not, is it an accurate representation of the DHS position?
  • Was this person on the public dime when he or she posted this?
  • Who posted this and what is their position with DHS?

This is not the first time we have been trolled by individuals connected to the TSA. Someone posted a personal attack on me from an IP belonging to mitre.org, a corporation whose core competency is securing federal government contracts, including DHS and TSA ones. Any effective TSA resistance threatens not only the TSA itself but also the bureaucrats who got us to this point and the corporations who are getting paid for the technology.

EDIT: In fact, there are are 19 comments from that IP address in our comment database! Here are some choice ones:

November 9:

Funny site you have going on here, looking forward to the guest comic postings.. what a bunch of rubes you all are.. BTW TSA officers make on avg $14.50 per hour to start. Much more than your bottle collecting jobs you have.

In this one, the troll identifies himself as “Butch Forman” with an email address of [email protected].

You people are really messed up. That you sit around and put forth the hatred that you spew. If any of you are parents who have children, I feel sorry for the kids because you will raise them to be cynical, skeptical and totally paranoid. The TSA who work everyday trying to earn a living are parents, retired professionals, students, ex-law enforcement a whole diverse population of people who are trying to support their families and hope that they are doing what is necessary to protect those who travel. Give it a rest would you and if you feel that way about flying, then do me and the TSA a favor and don’t fly, that is your right, exercise it please. It makes the line at the airport alot shorter for those of us who get it.

You can refuse to fly too. Train, car, bus, boat, walk, bicycle, motorcycle,..You don’t have to fly…You know that TSA perosnnel travel by air also..and they go through security just as anyone lse does….Are you for real or just argumentative…Homeschooled your kids..makes sense now

Another one from that same IP is from “DP” with email address [email protected]. Another one from “Jeff” with email address [email protected].

November 15 from [email protected]

Like I said before; This is turining into one of the best comedy sites on the internet… I love the fact that you have people all wound up about this liar.. Good for your ad dollars I’ll bet.. Ohhh let me guess what you folks have in mind next to generate $$ …. Ummm oh yeah TSA “agents” are really aliens looking for food!!!!!

From “iLoveTSAandtheUSA” with email [email protected]

Do any of you really think TSA is going to care if everyone requests a full body pat down instead of walking through the metal detector or body scanners?
They get to go home once their shift is over, no matter how long the lines are.
Less passengers flying means less work for them!
TSA must be doing something right if no hijackings or attacks have occured on American soil since 9/11.
I’d feel much safer if everyone was screened thoroughly. A terrorist can be anyone.

November 18 from “Anonymous” with email [email protected]

Wow so what you people want is a Private Security firm with no accountability to take over a Federalized, controlled, accountable and impregnable screening force. Good luck, I see an attack in our near future. Americans are so spoiled. You want protection with no loss of freedoms. Think back to 9-11. would you have been saying the same things if this took place right after that day? Grow up and get a life instead of bashing a working system. Everyone hates the IRS but no one complains when a Police officer comes to assist you when your being assaulted. Sounds funny because the tax laws the IRS enforces pays all civil service salaries. Once again society announces its ignorance.

Let me clear this up for you people who clearly are misinformed. At EVERY airport you visit there will be a little sign stating in a blip, that you are voluntarily subimiting youself and your property for screening. So when you walk through, no one is putting a gun to your head and making you fly. its your choice. And because this is a Commercial airline transporting people, it must require that everyone be screened throughly. And because you are so upset and not thinking you fail to realize the simplicity of it. You put your bags in and you walk through. So no it isnt illegal people. Is it illegal for Private companies to do it? no because its security duhhh. Then how is it illegal when TSA does it. You people dont think. And if you read the press reslease from TSA, they state that the images are not kept and that the officer isnt allowed to see theface of the person being screened. If you feel something is off when you go to get scanned, then inform a Law enforcement official or ask for a TSA rep. Simple. Stop throwing out lies and nonsense people. I can imagine you all sitting around thinking up crazy rumors to circulate. Also Im 4 years Army MP and I know a thing or two about security. thanks

November 25 from ” YourWrong” with email [email protected]

Why has your great Opt-Out leader never posted on this site what he would do to keep passengers who choose to fly safe from being blown up? Being a critic is for simpletons – experts however actually have to look for solutions.

Think about it!!!

And there are more. These are just the best ones.

EDIT: I’ll release the screenshot from the WordPress admin interface shortly.

EDIT: Here is the screenshot [744KB PNG]. It’s big and you may have to zoom in on it in your browser or image viewer. Note: this is just of the other 19 comments. There is a screenshot of the latest one at the top of this page, and I marked it as spam so I suppose it doesn’t show up in the search.

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172 Responses to Homeland Security Trolling We Won’t Fly Blog

  1. i live in europe and this was one of the reasons to never travel to USA.

    land of the free? right……

    USA citizens must uncover what happend on 9/11..

    this is all connected, an event(9/11) to push the “spy on the citizens” (patrioct act ) agenda.

    • concerned citizen says:

      Europeans need to know that Americans get “infotainment” instead of real news here. The news media allows about 5 minutes to report on a subject, on purpose of course, no thanks to their being whores to major corporations. In Europe you get real news that is extensive, long, thorough and uncensored. If Europeans think Americans are not catching on, i’ts because they are not given the real news. We agree with what you said above and we thank you. Wish Americans had the opportunity to know about the Patriot Act as in Europe. Anybody who wants to know should go to the ACLU’s website and read about it
      https://www.aclu.org

      the TSA”s actions have everything to do with the Patriot Act and its overbroad definition of terrorism. (Overbroad according to…the ACLU, CEnter for Constitutional Rights, National Lawyers Guild, American Rifle Assocation, Bruce FEin former deputy Atty GEnl’ under Reagan, and dozens of organizations joining the ACLU’s fight against the Patriot Act).
      No wonder we the people are being treated as terrorists until proven innocent. Time to overturn the Patriot Act.

    • Nina says:

      Absolutely!!! TSA Trapping Slaved Americans ANYONE that works for the TSA are Traitors to the American people!!!! You do nothing but Harrass, Intimidate and Mock the American people this has NOthing to do with our safety AT ALL!!! GET ANOTHER JOB!!!

      • Nina says:

        I AM SO SICK OF HEARING THE MEDIA AND PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT CALL MY COUNTRY THE HOMELAND, THE SAME THING HITLER CALLED HIS COUNTRY OF AUSTRIA THE HOMELAND!! YES HITLER CALLED HIS COUNTRY THE HOMELAND?!!! THIS IS AMERICA NOT THE HOMELAND, AMERICA!!!!! HOMELAND SECURITY TAKE A HIKE, THIS IS AMERICA AND YOU WONT CHANGE THAT!!! AMERICANS WILL NOT ALLOW THEIR CHILDREN TO BE TAUGHT YOUR GARBAGE FASCIST PSYCHOPATHIC DISORDER!!

      • Nina says:

        TSA YOU ARE THE TERRORISTS!! NAME ONE TERRORIST THAT YOU CAUGHT WITH ALL YOU SECURITY SINCE 9/11 NAME ONE!!!!!!! YOU CANT BECAUSE THERE ARENT ANY!!!

  2. Jonathan Thomaseti says:

    We, the Sheeple are letting the overwhelming power of an authoritarian bureaucracy strip away our freedoms along with our privacy in the name of security.

    Benjamin Franklin had something to say about that:
    “Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

    Arm the entire flight crew at the least.

    Use the El Al Israel Airlines Ltd model. El Al is the safest airline in the world. Israel has been dealing with these nuts for a lot longer than we have, and they know what works.

    Don’t strip us of our freedoms and dignity.

    I will not “Go Gentle Into that Good Night”

    What’s next? 1930s Germany?

    REFUSE to FLY!

    • Atredes says:

      HEY Thomaseti, who the heck do you think you are?! You think and post just like me. DITTO to your whole Post!

      Before this non-sense of the TSA the airlines were pretty much on the way of putting themselves out of business by putting a surcharge on everything. I was waiting on a surcharge on the Oxygen masks. You have to pay a non-refundable fee of in the case of cabin depressurization yours would not drop down.

      At that time I already had a 90-minutes rule. If the flight was 90-minutes or less I can drive that in a day so after all of the hassle of extra fees, security delays, rental cars ad the other end I said this is stupid!

      And this Crap about the TSA going through security… yeh kind of strange how the elitists in Washington have exempted themselves from the TSA security process. Too inconvenient for them?

  3. I think that consulting an ACLU lawyer (service is free and merely a telephone call) on this affair is appropriate.

    Questions
    1. Are the trolls TSA policy acted out?
    2. If not and if the trolls are initiated by an individual, doesn’t that person need to be fired for using government property and government time to act outside of policy?

    A tax payer should not be paying to be harassed and I believe legally can’t be by an agency or agent of the government.

    Regards
    Bruce
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  4. Jonathan S. says:

    I changed a word. Does this still make sense?

    You people are really messed up. That you sit around and put forth the hatred that you spew. If any of you are parents who have children, I feel sorry for the kids because you will raise them to be cynical, skeptical and totally paranoid. The Nazis who work everyday trying to earn a living are parents, retired professionals, students, ex-law enforcement a whole diverse population of people who are trying to support their families and hope that they are doing what is necessary to protect those who travel. Give it a rest would you and if you feel that way about flying, then do me and the Nazis a favor and don’t fly, that is your right, exercise it please. It makes the line at the airport alot shorter for those of us who get it.

  5. Zhaliberty says:

    Good going job, George. It only takes a lil snooping to put a few pieces of the puzzle together. TSA via their blog and this harassment is branding themselves as vile propagandists. I find very disturbing.

  6. Susan says:

    George, I posted a resource link to my own hosted space at the blog of https://fedupflyers.org and sure enough, someone at the same IP address followed the link from Fed Up Flyers to my website. That happened on November 10. Received no email, I have no related blog to post to, but I’m keeping that log in case I need it someday.

  7. bandit says:

    You can have some fun – you might want to ask them where their “radiation badge” is – they can’t wear them, so who knows how much excess radiation they are being exposed to? The porno scanners are not calibrated. None of the calibration companies will calibrate a NON-medical xray machine. So hopefully if anyone gets zapped with xrays, it will be the TSA. They’re literally breathing in backscattered xrays with no clue what dose they are getting on a daily basis.
    The good news is that the TSA won’t be able to reproduce soon.

  8. Jaym says:

    You’re definitely right… we won’t fly.

    I won’t any time soon, because the airlines don’t modernize their planes or perform proper safety upon them.

    I won’t any time soon, because we don’t thoroughly know every last item being placed in storage on them.

    I won’t any time soon, because of people like those here- who are fighting against necessary efforts to try to make it safe enough to fly, for no good reason whatsoever.

    Do you have a sister website about not going to the doctor? You know, they not only “feel you up”- they see you NAKED. O. M. G. End of your life, right? You know what DOESN’T happen at the airport? You do NOT get seen naked. Because the scanners do NOT show nudity. Period.

    You’re so much more concerned with a professional feeling your body for a brief moment to assure you don’t have something that can (easily) take a plane down, you’d rather kill 350 people. Sorry, but while you may be suicidal- I’m not there yet.

    So, we won’t fly. I won’t, for certain.

    Not until there is a 100 percent guarantee that the only danger is mechanical or pilot error- (and even then if such a chance is less than half a percent).

    Your “freedoms” don’t include the right to murder other citizens because of your prudishness and ignorance.

    P.S. I’ll save you time: I’m not posting from the TSA, I’m posting from Lansing, MI from a relative’s house I’ve been stuck in for 8 years due to the Bush Great Recession and failed Bush Administration policies.

    • NewYorkDan says:

      Please don’t take this the wrong way, but do you really think that the groping and imaging of passengers would make a plane safe? Because the head of security at El Al Airlines in Isreal (where the terrorist threat is far more severe than it is here in the US) has said he could easily get enough explosives past TSA security to down a plane. We have no fear of the doctor seeing us naked because the doctor is actually doing it for a reason. And the doctor does not treat anyone who refuses such treatment (if you refuse both the TSA pat-down and the body imaging scanner, you get arrested on terrorism charges). It is not that we are prudish, but because we are deeply concerned about the sociopolitical implications of the TSA making us trade security for liberty without delivering either. Mechanical issues are a very real concern, as airlines sometimes cut corners on safety regarding the maintainance of their fleets. But that is not the focus of this forum.

  9. Tony Wicher says:

    Well, these TSA employees are entitled to their opinions. As Mark Twain said, show me where a man gets his corn pone and I’ll tell you his ‘pinions. For myself, I totally agree with the stand people are taking against the pornoscanners and the body searches. It’s an intolerable violation of privacy. You won’t find me flying anywhere. But we need to put our actions in a wider context. People have to understand that the “War on Terror” is a complete fraud. Does everyone know the facts about the Underpants Bomber? This poor kid is the son of one of the richest men in Nigeria. Just a few days before the incident, he went to the U.S. embassy and reported that his son had gotten involved with some jihadi types and could be involved in some kind of terrorist activities. This did not result in Abdulmutallab being kept off the airplane. On the contrary, he was observed by two unimpeachable eyewitnesses, a man and his wife, both lawyers, being put on the plane by a “sharp dressed man”. At the boarding desk, they overheard a discussion between the airline clerk and the sharp dressed man. Abdulmutallab did not have a passport. The man told the airline official that “he’s from Sudan…we do this all the time”. The airline official said they would have to talk to his supervisor. The lawyer and his wife saw them head for the supervisor’s office. They did not see Abdulmutallab again until he set fire to his crotch. There was never any danger to the plane. This was a publicity stunt to get these full body scanners installed. This story was on CNN the day it happened but was buried immediately.

    https://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1R2ADRA_enUS384&q=underpants+bomber+story&aq=0&oq=Underpants+bomber+#q=underpants+bomber+Haskell&hl=en&rlz=1R2ADRA_enUS384&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbs=vid:1&tbo=u&ei=TwoVTbvDIJH6sAOOw-TNAg&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDQQqwQwAg&fp=9257ec8226d68507

    The Times Square Bomber, the Shoe Bomber, the Christmas Tree Bomber – these are nothing but publicity stunts using mentally unstable or retarded patsies to further the agenda of those who would take away our freedom. But the biggest publicity stunt of all was 9/11.

    ae911truth.org

    • concerned citizen says:

      Talk about mentally unstable!
      How about…
      waging wars based on lies: Where is the empathy in that? Sorta like Charles Manson with nuclear weapons in his hands.
      What about frisking people’s and childrens’ groins in the name of security while pretending to be *really concerned* with going on internet-based pedophile hunts?
      What about clamping down on free travel and such power-based crazes?
      Yes the underwear and shoe bombers were mentally unstable, but so are our government officials, clearly and certifiably.
      The war OF terror is a criminal act of abnormal psychology, and needs to be exposed as such.

  10. Anonymous says:

    The mitre.org guy – was that comment removed too?

  11. Homeland Security Trolling We Won’t Fly Blog…

    Someone at Homeland Security saw fit to post an insulting comment to WeWontFly.com….

  12. NotABrownShirt says:

    Vulgar comments != trolling. It’s just being vulgar.

    [email protected] is Jeffrey Handley of Tacoma, Washington. “burniate” on Twitter. “Bio Screening officer at an airport security checkpoint. Also, a nerd. And a fashion whore. A bit OCD, too.”

    [email protected] is Martha Rivera. “martooska” on myspace and twitter.

    Keep being awesome.

  13. kouby says:

    Hey, hadn’t thought of this yet but the scanners might be a quite effective way of implementing eugenics in a really twisted and mad way. Anyone stupid enough to take a kick out of “patting down” (read molesting) people in public just get to stand all day long next to this cool death machine and have all their sperm irradiated…

  14. Rwahrens says:

    That IP address is most likely a shared address…

    I work for the FDA, and we have three IP addresses we share to users that surf outside the intranet. Meaning that any logs on web sites they go to will show one of those IP addresses, no matter how many folks are doing it from within our system.

    So your comments could be coming from any number of different people within TSA, not necessarily the same guy.

    It is an Enterprise version of NAT that is used on small routers, and prevents outsiders from being able to see our internal IP structure.

  15. [...] necessary body scanners for days on end to avoid bad publicity. Weeks later, it emerged that DHS had targeted the website, posting derogatory comments at WeWontFly.com, childishly chiding ‘you won’t change [...]

  16. concerned citizen says:

    “You people are really messed up. That you sit around and put forth the hatred that you spew. If any of you are parents who have children, I feel sorry for the kids because you will raise them to be cynical, skeptical and totally paranoid. ”

    I posted this to another website, but will post it again here:

    This is the most classic case of shadow projection I have ever heard. While those waging the war OF terror go chasing down terrorists and terrorize the whole world in so doing, here come TSA agents accusing us of “spewing hatred” and raising kids to be “cynical, skeptical and totally paranoid”. Well excuse me, if frisking their groins in public will not raise kids to be exactly that way, if waging wars based on lies and wreaking deliberate havoc with the economy and people losing homes based on scams won’t do just that….then what will? It never continues to amaze me how beautifully and accurately the Feds are describing their own shadow as they point fingers at others, (or so they think).

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