I’m not into conspiracy theories but where is this going to stop? Transportation and travel are cultural and personal necessities. We use them to build closer ties with those far from us. Travel enhances people’s well-being. It builds our economy. It keeps the peace. So, just how far and wide are they going to roll out the scanning and groping circus show?
The day after Opt Out Day, Homeland Security secretary Janet Napolitano said she’s expanding security theater to buses, trains, ships, mass transit and who knows what else. Janet should know better than to try to grow their unpopular and dangerous security theater. A lot of people simply will not accept it. It is already hurting the economy. It will only strengthen our resistance.
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I can’t believe it. It’s madness.
So much for having an alternate mode of transportation to flying without being groped and having your 4th amendment rights usurped.
I wouldn’t live in your country for anything. Just having to travel to it or through it is bad enough.
May I ask what country you’re from? It is fascinating to me that people from other parts of the world are feeling less restricted and impinged upon than Americans, in the “land of the free” feel. Wow. I think that speaks volumes.
+1, exactly what I am thinking. I think this is going to hurt foreign tourism in the US at some point.
The worst part I see is, I made the comment the other day that it was a useless effort to monitor just the airports with all the other modes of transit… This was not what I intended… I simply wanted TSA to acknowledge that these acts do nothing to make us safe, they only make us feel safe… Benjamin Franklin, one of our Founding Fathers said, “Anyone who would gladly trade a little freedom for a little security deserves neither, and will soon be deprived of both,” and Franklin Roosevelt said, “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.” If we live in a perpetual police state of fear, as we are headed, then the terrorists have already won.
Where are you from? I need to get out of here!!
Seriously, what needs to be done is debunk the efficacy of the x-ray scanners and crotch feel ups in making us “safe.” Bomb detecting dogs are good and I believe there is a mechanical device that detects micro components of bombs. . .used in Israel. Metal detectors are fine and unoffensive too.
I live in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
Got room for some refugees from madness? LOL looks like Diana and I are both ready. Besides… if I walk from Florida to Washington, B.C. isn’t that much further, eh?
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Interesting comment at the end of the video: “the bad guys, if you will, are on notice that we’ll be back.” Seems to me with these kind of unwarranted searches of law abiding citizens the bad guys are back every time this kind of practice is implemented.
I will not submit to this kind of unwarranted groping to fly a plane. I recently took an Amtrak from Tampa to Delray Beach – and you can bet I won’t be submitting to this junk at a train or bus station either!
Any time a jack-booted thug/bully (like Napolitano) gives him/herself the power to identify the “bad guys” off the cuff they have given democracy and due process the finger. Now in the U.S. of A., she thinks she can treat us all as presumed bad guys.
Where are the non-FBI sponsored terror attacks? They just bragged of foiling their own car bomb. How come soft targets aren’t hit (buses, crowds, etc. that are hard to protect)? Oh, I forgot, they have no “security theater” value.
Screw that, I`ll drive…for now….I give it another couple of months before they institute patdowns at toll booths.
Obviously this game they’re playing is all about instilling fear in order to exerting authority and control.
This is the same deck of cards that’s been played over and over again throughout history in various countries. This is just the American flavor of it.
Welcome to the police state.
Maybe we should take the offensive here and call for a boycott of all public transit and all non-essential long distance travel.
Time to get some horses and buggies like the Amish, eh? Or dogcarts/sleds…
Gee, I guess if I want to make it to Washington by March I’d better start walking. I wonder what kind of news story that would make?
Woman walks from Hollywood Florida to Bangor Washington for the birth of her grandchild, in order to avoid the invasive security procedures now being utilized by TSA.
Even if they just said I was crazy, I bet it would make the news in every City I walked through. Hmmm not a bad idea. I could wear a sign…
I am really, seriously considering this… not a joke. If I can find sponsors I am ready, willing, and able to walk cross-country to protest and bring these issues to the attention of the sleepwalkers of our country. I posted about it on my facebook profile:
https://www.facebook.com/mizlydia
When do the patdowns to enter our own cars start?
Why hasn’t a single cop arrested a TSA worker when they have witnessed a sexual assault-groping of a passenger at the airport? Perhaps the Feds outrank local police, but don’t they have a duty to act when a crime is being committed? Let the courts sort out who can do what and who out-ranks who, but if a cop sees an assault in progress he has a legal and moral responsibility to put a sto to it and arrest the perp. If a cop sees a crime in process at the airport, why would they handle it differently than they would on the street? If they cannot act then why are they there at all?
If I had to guess, the people submitting to these searches are “voluntarily” submitting. I would, however like to see local cops arrest TSA agents on kiddie porn for scanning minors.
Unfortunately U.S. cops have been proven to be like most cops everywhere — bullies and worms siding with power. They want the power a full blown police state would bring them. Already one witnesses outrageous arrests including threats to bystanders. They aren’t interested in protecting the innocent.
In NYC they rode horses and motor scooters into crowds (protesting the Iraq War). Elsewhere they shot demonstrators with paint guns at close range. In communities of color cops are totally out of control.
If we take down the TSA pervert molesters we’ll take down the thug cops also.
Can the members of the legal community out there please weigh in on this issue?
I live in Oregon, although I am not originally from here. I’m from New Orleans originally, so we are talking about completely opposite lifestyles here. At any rate, I have to ask how this will eventually affect the motoring public. A few years ago, the Oregon Department of Transportation piloted a GPS-based, tax-by-the-mile program. In lieu of gasoline taxes, you’d pay a tax for every mile driven. How would the State know how many miles you drove? You would have a state-issued GPS in your vehicle that would be read at the fuel pump and the tax would be added to your gasoline bill. Of course, this technology meant that the State would have to know precisely where you drove at all times, and could supposedly differentiate between miles driven inside of Oregon versus those outside of the state (say, Washington or California, for example). Of course, the sheeple seemed to mostly go along with it. I understand that the Federal Transportation Secretary, Ray LaHood, would like to take this program nationally. So, if we are seeing government intrustion at our airports, and train and bus stations, we may not have to wonder much how they can get into our cars. That program is already on the drawing board and getting ready for full-scale implementation.
https://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/RUFPP/mileage.shtml
https://democratherald.com/news/local/article_ecff22dd-ee82-5922-ba67-81deb4445c73.html
One clarification – the GPS would not be state issued, it would be state mandated. The way I would get around this requirement is NOT to buy a new car after the law requiring GPS goes into effect (it would be required in new cars sold).
I think they already have GPS in new cars as an anti-theft tool. Wow.
Thank you for bringing this up, Joe. As more people are driving less because of the economy and more fuel efficient vehicles become available, the pay-per-mile, track you wherever you go plan will increasingly entice the government.
At 0:42, did he say they’re looking for “bulk cash smuggling”?
Wait a moment. When did riding transportation become way for gov’t agents to search for contraband without a warrant?
I got groped getting into my car this morning.
This is very scary stuff. I sure hope Ron Paul and others keep challenging the law, and stand up for the rights of the American public.
I have lived overseas for several years. i went back to the states last year for a visit and literally couldn’t stand to be there. Lobo you comment on the money coment, well if your stopped for any offense and officer ask to search your car and you refuse, it gives him grounds for suspicion which gives him right to search your car. now during his search he finds a decent amount of cash i think it is about 10000 dollars he has right to confiscate it and you have a fight to prove it is yours legally.
you spend 10000 to buy a couch and tv homeland security is supposed to be notified. you spend 10000 on a car cash they have to be notified. you transfer 10000 to your son at his college they have to be notified. As only drug dealers and terrorist deal in cash.
True Americans live on credits cards and debt, dishonest people pay off their debt and live by cash.
I heard this in the new harry potter movie and i have heard it in newspapers b4 that, if your honest and have nothing to hide, then you should have no problem getting searched. Only criminals know what the constitution says and inact their rights, honest people truct the government and know the government knows what is best.
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I can’t believe how biased the report is. This is very worrying, yet everyone in the report is happy about it, including a passenger who obviously has no idea of the danger.
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In the past, I have posted via this blog about my fears for where this is all headed. I have always had deep issues with GPS and do not have one in my car. Because I fear the ways it could be used. They monitor our Internet and PDA usage, they TRIED to keep records of what we got from libraries. They keep files on our online purchases. They keep records of credit card purchases, and cash is suspect. We are under video surveilence at all times in major stores and shopping areas. Some city streets are under video surveilence as well. Now comes the news that the Feds are stepping up their harassment of anyone who travels. And I fear a state in which the old maxim is perverted into, “Guilty until proven innocent.” Isn’t that how Stalinist Russia was run? Incidentally, the reason why they did not succeed in getting into our libraries? Yeah, it’s because librarians and library users objected very vocally. Never think that a small group of vocal people cannot create change. Indeed, it’s the only thing that does.
i predict violence will simply begin to be implemented against any person who perpetuates the heinous actions of the state against the people.
One of these days some kneeling TSA freak pervert is going to rub some martial artist the wrong way. A double punch to the temples and a knee driving the nose up is a triple kill redundancy. This may happen without any forethought, at a fraction of a second.