Question the TSA at your own Risk

by George Donnelly on November 9, 2010

The TSA chose Meg McLain for special screening. They wanted her to go through the new porno-scanners. When she opted out, TSA (Transportation Security Administration of the Department of Homeland Security, US federal government) agents raised an enormous ruckus. When she asked some question about what they planned to do to her, they flipped out. TSA agents yelled at her, handcuffed her to a chair, ripped up her ticket, called in 12 local Miami cops and finally escorted her out of the airport. Listen to her story as she told it on radio show Free Talk Live last night. Things are truly getting scary.

For best results, listen to the audio on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJGvsAgpfig

 

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Yishai November 10, 2010 at 3:15 pm

Lets see Obama or Big Sis go through normal airport security and be treated like a common American.

Its funny how the US has gone to all these lengths with airport security, yet Israel airport security isn’t this intrusive. They might shoot your laptop, but at least you are treated like a human-being.

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Tony Crago November 13, 2010 at 7:00 am

And while we’re at it – let’s see AWOL George Bush and his grandmother – er, I mean his wife go through one too. His relationship with Osama bin Laden’s father is the reason for all this mess.

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chris November 10, 2010 at 3:22 pm

Has anybody brought charges against the TSA (or other “authorities”) for violations of civil liberties?

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Nicole November 10, 2010 at 4:19 pm

Yes, Michael Roberts (a pilot) is filing suit

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Nicole November 10, 2010 at 4:16 pm

you can see my two cents here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ra3ov1mEZE

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Rocco November 10, 2010 at 4:42 pm

ALL THIS HEARTACHE AND TURMOIL…just so thousands of useless, pathetic deadbeat losers can have a “job.”

What a joke.

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Okifax November 14, 2010 at 10:07 am

You are 100% correct. It is time to take back our country.

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applemorgan November 10, 2010 at 4:46 pm

The 4th Amendment was written to protect US citizens (Meg) from unreasonable search, seizures, (TSA VIOLATED MEGS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS). False imprisonment is a restraint of a person in a bounded area without justification or consent , FLORIDA MIAMI POLICE appear to be GUILTY of False imprisonment which is a common-law felony and a tort. False reports of commission of crimes in Florida is a crime, TSA AGENT appears to be GUILTY of False Reporting of a Crime. Please contact a good attorney for sound legal advise as you may have a civil & criminal case…….against the TSA & Miami Police Department based on the actions you describe.

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SomeoneElse November 11, 2010 at 2:59 pm

First of all search and seizures is appropriate in instances of suspicious behavior. The police, or federal agents have a right to search your person if you begin to behave suspiciously. Common law tort, the government has to consent to be sued. Fail

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snarkypants November 11, 2010 at 3:15 pm

@SomeoneElse:

Air travel is not suspicious behavior, and setting up a bull pen barricade for all and sundry travelers is not probable cause. Treating the public as if they were arrestees is unreasonable search and siezure. This is not acceptable application of contitutional principles.

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FreedomIsn'tFree November 11, 2010 at 3:21 pm

If the “government” has to give its consent to be sued, I think that we shoulkd ALL have that ability. We could call it AUTOMATIC TORT REFORM!

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Ray Wolf November 11, 2010 at 3:47 pm

Let’s not forget about the “Perjury of oath”, “False swearing” as the TSA agents and Miami police took the Oath to “Uphold and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies – both foreign and domestic”! Yes- I can see a 42 U.S.C. 1983 District Court lawsuit brewing. If enough of us were to file against their pornscanners (Invasion of privacy, 4th amend. vio), we could get a Class Action lawsuit. Might as well go after the lawmakers that voted for this intrusive act as well, then can them in the next election.

We, the people, are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution. Abraham Lincoln

“There is no crueler tyranny than that which is exercised under cover of law, and with the colors of justice ….” United States vs Jannottie, 673 F.2d 578, 614 (ed Cir. 1982)

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Mr. Neutron November 10, 2010 at 4:50 pm

@Jim ….

how anyone who does not know at this point what TSA is, can call the author a “dumbass”, is beyond me… you’re not only ignorant, you seem unable to think logically. Sheesh.

TSA = Thousands Standing Around …. etc.

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republicanmother November 10, 2010 at 5:33 pm

If you want to understand the need for body scanners, then follow the money. Michael Chertoff, former Homeland Czar and Secretary authorized the use of scanners right after 9/11. The Christmas day/ underwear bomber who appeared drugged and accompanied by a sharp-dressed man with an American accent who tried to get him on without a passport is what set off the mass use of these machines. The VERY NEXT WEEK , the TSA has 150 scanners on order to prevent such a lapse in security in the future. Don’t worry, these scanners were paid for by the Recovery ACT of 2009 (in otherwords, you). Isn’t that special?

Who makes the scanners? Rapiscan Systems, who used The Chertoff Group as a consultant to push the things. Yes, the head of the Chertoff Group is none other than Michael Chertoff himself, who has a lot to financially gain from the widespread use of these things. Airports are just the beginning, Amtrak, bus stations, subways, etc. are probably in the pipeline.

The recent “mail bombs” over Europe after recent heads of Airlines, etc. balked at how crazy the security had become, was also fishy as many people’s stories did not mesh. But don’t worry, Rapiscan Systems also makes a lot of cargo scanners, just talk to their man Michael Chertoff and he’ll hook you right up!

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wjdvd November 10, 2010 at 11:59 pm

Excellent, but I think the average Joe is more interested in Dancing with the Stars.

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uglyoldwoman November 10, 2010 at 5:45 pm

I have 3 generations of skin cancer in my family. I do not want to be exposed to more radiation. There should be a different method that my opting out would not force me into a molestation by a pervert.

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I've Got the Blue Glove Blues November 10, 2010 at 7:34 pm

December 16th is the National No Fly Day!
TSA Tea Party 2010.
https://www.dailypaul.com/node/149002

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flying pasties November 10, 2010 at 11:50 pm

it’s funny, EVERY model we ever talk to is lead for ‘random’ screener. we did a quick video about this. NO MORE FREE SHOW AT THE AIRPORTS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnlbxsEkimA

2nd generation pasties available soon.
– flying pastiess

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wjdvd November 10, 2010 at 11:57 pm

This is all part of the so called “war on terrorism,” We should be happy to submit to these procedures, they make us more secure don’t they? Right. This is just the beginning and if you don’t think it is going to get more aggressive you fit right in with the majority of the general public. The airport has become a playground for state, local, and federal law enforcement agencies. As we evolve into a socialist country the size of he police force will get bigger, and you better do as they tell you or else.

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wjdvd November 11, 2010 at 12:00 am
Bob November 11, 2010 at 12:22 am

This is what happens when incompetent, poorly trained people are placed in a power position that they can freely abuse without any real fear of punishment.

I’m honestly surprised by the ever increasing reports of rights violations by the TSA. Nine years later and it’s only getting worse.

And I scoffed when they first told me I had to put my moisturizer in a clear bag.

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Ryan Rogers November 11, 2010 at 12:28 am

Where are the health disclaimers, such as caution could severely damage small children or fetus. or Caution, radiation hazard especially if used on frequent basis.
When hiring does TSA give preference to homosexuals and perverts?

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Ray Wolf November 11, 2010 at 3:53 pm

pediphiles with homosexual tendencies.

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NAC November 11, 2010 at 12:40 am

Return these scanners to the Israeli / Israeli-front company / Chertoffcorp that built them, and subtract the due refund out of the 3 billion in aid we give them each year.

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David B Brown November 11, 2010 at 2:19 am

I would add a bit of excitement to my trip by whipping as many of the TSA asses as I could until they restrained me. Forefathers fought for each and every amendment, I will damn sure continue what they started. EmbraceViloence

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Ray Wolf November 11, 2010 at 3:56 pm

Violence is the only thing our leaders know. If they don’t get their way then cry about it and then have some paid enforcer commit violence on their behalf. That is how the Iraq war got started 2d time around.

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AC November 11, 2010 at 2:47 am

I get the impression that most of the a**holes in Congress *enjoy* the sexual assault “pat down.” Of course, they aren’t all bad – last time I got a free watch (of course, it needed a good cleaning once I got it out).

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QuestionSomethings November 11, 2010 at 3:59 am

I’ve known people who went through SERE school. When they got to the “Resistance” part of the training (i.e., resisting being tortured), they’ve said one of the torturers’ tactics is to beat up on a short female, because seeing it would be so disturbing to everyone else.

That’s what this girl’s story reminded me of.

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Anonymous November 11, 2010 at 4:33 am

If our taxes pay their bills and pay for their machines I believe I’ll forget to pay my taxes from now on.

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NewBirthOfFreedom November 11, 2010 at 7:50 am

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
— Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

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hal November 11, 2010 at 8:06 pm

— Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
STUDY THIS MAN’S WRITINGS!!!! … THEY’RE THE BEST SOURCE OF ADVICE WE HAVE ON THE PLANET, RIGHT NOW!!!

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TiredofTSA November 11, 2010 at 9:03 am

Turn over airport security to a bunch of monkeys and this is what you get. Did anyone expect more from these former welfare recipients?

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Okifax November 14, 2010 at 10:16 am

We the people have allowed this to happen. Time to wake up, America!

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FreedomIsn'tFree November 11, 2010 at 10:15 am

Does this apply to ALL travelers? Does it include Muslim women in Muslim attire? If there is a group of 20 Muslims boarding the same flight, will ALL be scanned? According to Annie Jacobsen in her book “Terror in the Skies” the TSA policy allows for closer scrutiny of only TWO of the aforementioned Muslims even if ALL of those passengers are behaving suspiciously.
I realize how Politically Incorrect I am but the inconsistancies with the TSA are ridiculous. Even MORE ridiculous are the positions of our Congressional “leaders” who bleated about the invasive tone of the Patriot Act but who are strangely mute about this most obvious invasion of privacy.

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no name November 11, 2010 at 10:23 am

sounds like someone needs to get their ass kicked.

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Ken Weaver November 11, 2010 at 10:59 am

Paint a message on your body; make it as dirty and offensive as you can; if your a man write something like “yo momma loved this and have an arrow pointin down to yourpackage; Obummer does not have one of these with an arrow; Michell Obumer loved to chew on this with an arrow. You get the idea; make it filthy and pornographic and above all else make it personal so the guys or gals looking at the images get pissed off!
Women, if its safe paint your body with lead paint over your personal parts so they dont get their thrill, then go in the ladies room and wash it off. Use your imagination; but the intent is to send a message that will get them really really mad; insult their mothers, daughters, sisters, obummer, michelle, pelosy. and dont forget to give them a message on your backside that will really pee them off. Maybe you will get lucky and one of those perverts doing the scanning will do or say something to you where you can have a huge lawsuit. One way or another those images will go viral on you tube making them even more angry. Can you imagine how pizzed off Obummer will be to read a message telling him to chew on this with his name really big. No law against it, its personal and on your body that they invaded. So have some fun and really insult them. While I m not racist I plan on painting really offensive racist messages just for the black screeners. maybe ill get lucky and be able to sue them for a personal attack ; I could sure use a few hundred thousand of a million or two bucks from some pizzed off scanner.
GOD BLESS AMERICA FIGHT BACK!

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Dr. Tom Conrad November 11, 2010 at 11:02 am

I am an Honor Graduate of the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center and I totally disagree with what TSA did here. A reasonable search would have been okay. but the agents went way over the line, when they should of just talked to her. I am REALLY SURPRIZED that the real cops (Ft. Lauderdale) did not intervene in the situation with some reason. I have friends and relatives who are survivors of sexual child abuse and would not react well to the “sexual assault” method of screening.

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Anita Keim November 11, 2010 at 11:21 am

This is total intrusive insanity. Political correctness has gone way too far. We MUST profile. When it is proven that little old ladies, mothers, business travelers and middle aged Americans are responsible for any terrorism, then maybe we will consider this. Otherwise, we need to learn from Isreal on how to handle airline security.

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Robert November 11, 2010 at 12:01 pm

F*** the government & F*** the airlines and tsa! Thank god I have a great car to get where I’m going

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Ron November 11, 2010 at 12:17 pm

It seems to me that the whole purpose for these security measures is to catch Muslim terrorists. In order to hi-light the stupidity of the current inspection protocol, and as a fundraiser, you should start a “Support the Burka” program. The way this would work, people could buy burkas from you –women and men alike– which they would wear, en mass, when going through airport security. At the same time, you would make money to pay for your efforts by selling burkas. Burkas could be made in a variety of styles and have appropriate messages printed on them.

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Alex November 11, 2010 at 12:59 pm

I don’t think there’s anything to learn from Isreal, but we do need to fix our airport security issues.

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Kheris November 11, 2010 at 2:36 pm

I watched the videos and listened to the Free Talk Live show where she describes what happened. What the videos show is that she wasn’t there for an hour, she wasn’t handcuffed, a TSA agent gave her a paper towel to wipe her eyes, and people were going through the body scanners while she was sitting, unhandcuffed, in the separate area. I don’t claim to know what happened, but I do know that she has some faulty memory here.

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German Gick November 11, 2010 at 2:37 pm

The US has long ago become much much worse than “Germany”.

Germany actually has become a pretty cool place to live.

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hal November 11, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Tom Ford November 11, 2010 at 3:27 pm

Israel doesn’t use these, and they have very good security despite being the terrorist’s primary target – so why do we need them?

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hal November 11, 2010 at 8:23 pm

… can you say: “Part of Michael Chertoff’s Golden Parachute”

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GONE November 11, 2010 at 4:17 pm

Don’t fly. A simple ” strike-with-your-wallet” should shut this crap down. Drive, stay home, take the train. Just don’t fly unless you absolutely have to. It is about time WE THE PEOPLE take a stand.

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Anonymous November 11, 2010 at 4:32 pm

This is all a distraction. If the government truly wanted to keep terrorists out of our Country – they would get more serious about the Mexican border. They know that any terrorist can bring whatever they want into American the same way millions of Mexicans bring illegal drugs into our Country – through our unsecured borders. This is all a joke. Terrorists are not totally stupid – you block them one way and they’ll just find another way. Why would they truly bother with the plane idea again – when it’s so much easier to come through the unsecured Mexican border?

Our government is not serious about stopping terrorism – if they were – they’d hunt the ones that are already in America down like dogs. How many are already here? How many are already naturalized citizens or have green cards to be here legally? Why is our government continuing to allow them to come to our Country? What about all the Somalians they keep bringing here and giving them welfare and free health care and the young men then turn around and get trained as terrorists because after all we’ve given them – they still hate the US? It seems that our own government is more of the problem because they are doing things that harm our own legal citizens.

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WhatAboutBorderSecurity? November 11, 2010 at 5:17 pm

But we let illegal immigrants come and go out of our country from the bottom border… no big deal! But let’s just pat down all of our own law-abiding citizens, and heaven forbid they randomly pick someone who looks like they might actually BE a terrorist… No, that might hurt someone’s feelings.

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Mary Beth November 11, 2010 at 6:49 pm

Perhaps we should also have a massive letter campaign to all the airlines notifying them that we will not be flying their airline or any other until the TSA is completely overhauled, and body scanners and pat downs are eliminated…

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Richard Popovich November 11, 2010 at 9:24 pm

I have a pretty good hunch that Meg being chosen for a “random” scan and “pat-down” was a lot less “random” than the TSA claims. I am sure that the TSA wouldn’t have been nearly as interested in me; a 263#, 5’8″, 63 y/o fat man; as they would be a pretty, 5’5″, 110#, 25+/- y/o female. Then to treat he like a criminal because she wanted to secure her right to “opt-out” of the search, tear up a ticket, etc? It isn’t ridiculous, it is criminal. This is what happens when you give minor people, major authority.

This is what happens

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Ryan Lile November 11, 2010 at 11:41 pm

DISGUSTING! This innocent young woman was treated as a criminal by the SS (TSA) for no reason other than refusing to let perverts look at her naked body or submit to a sexual assault pat down.

People, we are steaming toward Treblinka. Before you even consider stepping into a body scanner, read this first: https://www.savvytravel.net/2010/10/5-reasons-to-reject-tsas-strip-search-and-grope/

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hgjhgj November 12, 2010 at 1:12 am

I fully understand people not wanting to go through the scans but why are you publicizing such a liar. The videos show her description is simply false.

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lanier November 12, 2010 at 9:30 am

I keep trying to reconcile myself to a US govt that adamantly opposes Arizona’s laws requiring “people behaving suspiciously or in the act of committing a crime or suspected of doing so, show proof of citizenship.” But then turns around and subjects people whose are simply trying to get on a plane to “procedures” that are an affront to their civil liberties. I don’t get it.

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thx678 November 12, 2010 at 12:09 pm

What’s worse, the Gestapo or the TSA? Well, the Gestapo refused to hire perverts.

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bvwRedux November 12, 2010 at 3:24 pm

I have been responding prolifically to the YOU TUBE thread. I want to repeat a recent reply I made there here. I also want to let Meg and you folks know that although our philosophies differ, mine being based in duty to my G-d, and yours being — so I suppose — in a secular libertarianism, nevertheless we are buddies and fellow stalwart citizens bound to the cause of LIBERTY! And that Meg is my hero! Stick with it Meg, and go visit your state’s newly elected US Senator Kelly Ayotte and ask her to champion this cause.

—-

Boxcutters did not result in the WTC falling, MULSIM JIHADIS did. And you know what? It NEVER worked again. The heroes of Flight 93 showed what FREE AMERICANS do to terrorists.

WE NEVER NEEDED THE POST 9-11 SUPER OBNOXIOUS TSA & LONG-LINES OF SCREENING. NOT ONE TERRORIST HAS BEEN STOPPED BY THE TSA.

The Shoe Bomber, 22 Dec 2001, was stopped by alert passengers and flight attendants.

The Underwear Bomber, 25 Dec 2009, was stopped by passengers.

THE TSA IS WORTHLESS!

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Thomas November 12, 2010 at 7:53 pm

Man, it’s too bad she lied so much, she just seems like an attention whore now, regardless of what actually happened.

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NAC November 13, 2010 at 12:41 am

Israel is not above strip searches or humiliating people who belong to the wrong ethnicities or political opinions in its security detail. This “Israel does it better” meme must end immediately.

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laddie November 13, 2010 at 1:10 am

One question, how could these scanners have detected the “crotch bomber”? Are powders dense enough to be detected this way?

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Kim Bell November 13, 2010 at 10:03 am

Women, If you don’t want to go though the scanners and know you are going to be subjected to the “enhanced groping” by security officers…Then ths is what our family has decided we are going to do as far as the women….We are making full length to the hip corsets with full steel boning in them with multiple lines directly over the breasts and we will be wearing homemade extra extra thick, extra long femine pads (like three or four inches thick we figure we can take them off once we get on the plane) attached to very tight fitting underwear. We then will also be wearing over top of that full to knee extremely tight girdle again with steel boning directly over the butt crack an then finally a layer of extra large extremely baggy old fashiond victorian pantaloon….I want to see them really feel me up good trying to grope me or mine genitalia after trying to get through all those layers…If everyone other lady got smart and did the same I think it would not be long before they gave up on this rediculious invasion of our bodies..they want to invade our bodies then fight through my lady armor I will now to wearing to get to it…..Maybe steel chastity belts for your daughter will have to be the next step…Will be for mine if this does not work……..Anyone up for joining us? My husband is demending I make him a extra padded cod piece and something for is nether region along the same lines Any men going for that?

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fightmedialies November 13, 2010 at 4:05 pm

Anybody note how the media always supports the govt? How their “person in the street” interviews tilt strongly in favor of govt. actions that take away our freedoms, treat us like criminals?

If you see reports you object to on TV, go to their website and go to Contact. Usually there is a “leave a message” option. They seem to pay attention to these messages.

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Emmett November 13, 2010 at 7:10 pm

Does one have to be Queer to work in the TSA?

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