A woman is suing the TSA over an overly intrusive pat down. Good for her. But the really weird part of this story is the claim that a TSA supervisor said she was singled out because she is a lady.
A woman suing the TSA for an invasive pat-down at the Albuquerque Sunport speaks only with KOB Eyewitness News 4.
Adrienne Durso of Carlsbad, California spoke over the phone – she describes her experience during a TSA pat-down at the Sunport back in August.
“Heavily concentrating on my breast area where I told her I had a mastectomy the year previous and in just seemed to go on and on,” said Durso.
She says she felt humiliated as the extensive pat-down happened in front of her 17 year old son and hundreds of other travelers.
“I felt as though I didn’t have any rights other than I had to stand there and let them do what they want to do to my body,” Durso continued.
She says she knew her rights had been violated so she asked to speak to a supervisor who she thought would help.
All the while her son stood by her side and couldn’t remain silent anymore
“My son, who I’m very proud of spoke up and said ‘I went through the metal detector and I did not get a pat-down’ to which the supervisor said ‘well you don’t have boobs’,” she said.
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Some day all these drones will be brought to trial, and just like the criminals at Nuremberg, they will claim: “We were just following orders.”
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With all the smart people living here in this country, why can’t we figure out a better way than imaging strip searching or sexual molestation by the TSA?
The TSA web site mission statement says a few things which they might want to read from time to time. I’m getting the impression they have neglected to read it…
https://www.tsa.gov/who_we_are/mission.shtm
Mission
The Transportation Security Administration protects the Nation’s transportation systems to ensure freedom of movement for people and commerce.
Vision
The Transportation Security Administration will continuously set the standard for excellence in transportation security through its people, processes, and technology.
Core Values
To enhance mission performance and achieve our shared goals, we are committed to promoting a culture founded on these values:
Integrity:
We are a people of integrity who respect and care for others and protect the information we handle.
We are a people who conduct ourselves in an honest, trustworthy and ethical manner at all times.
We are a people who gain strength from the diversity in our cultures.
Innovation:
We are a people who embrace and stand ready for change.
We are a people who are courageous and willing to take on new challenges.
We are a people with an enterprising spirit, striving for innovations who accept the risk-taking that comes with it.
Team Spirit:
We are a people who are open, respectful and dedicated to making others better.
We are a people who have a passion for challenge, success and being on a winning team.
We are a people who will build teams around our strengths.
Damn the airlines for not stepping up and helping their customers. I can think of NO OTHER business relationship outside of the medical field in the United States where I have to reveal that I have had a mastectomy, or some other surgical proceedure which has changed my shape to save my life, in order to do conduct business with them.
The airlines are too smug now that the Thanksgiving travel is over and past. They got their pilots and flight attendents out of the body scanner and pat down lanes and left their customers standing there like deer in the headlights.
Damn the airlines.
Actually, the ACLU reported previously on their website that the airlines—nationally and internationally—did strike down unconstitutional laws designed to crack down on free travel. They struck down CAPPS II, the then-proposed airliner passenger profiling law. Next came a Federal proposal for an electronic stun bracelet to be worn by US travelers, capable of stunning people by remote control (this was reported in an email to membership by the ACLU). The airlines struck that down too.
Why are the airlines now remaining silent about the TSA abuses? Who knows. I suggest we need to be querying and very concerned.
DAMN THE FEDS!
Let’ s put the focus where it really belongs, please. Of course the airlines are puppets and servants to this cause, yes and to hold them accountable is correct. But the Feds are the core problem, not the airlines.
This afternoon Mr. Connie and I were talking about this instance with the TSA. He said the first airline that so much as raises an eyebrown as to how passenger are screened will come under extreme scrutiny by the govt. All of the sudden that airlines planes will be grounded for extra checks. Logs and records will be reviewed looking for any sort of irregularity. He said we will never hear a peep from the airlines.
He explained this is between the passenger and the govt and the citizen looses every time they walk through the scanner or allow a pat down.
Totally agree!
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Was it a double mastectomy? Because if it was, she didn’t have boobs either.
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I have the opposite issue. God played the oh so funny joke of giving me really big boobs. I’m afraid to fly now because I think I’ll be singled out, and neither groping or a nude photo appeal to me. Instead of searching a few who fit a profile and possibly infringing on their rights, they are searching everyone and infringing on the entire populations rights. How moronic. OBL did exactly what he said he was going to do. Made this country feel less safe and bankrupt due to our own stupidity. What happened to bravery that this country was built on?
Yeah, we ought to tell the TSA agents to grow a pair of *balls* and then to go on strike until their command to do such “searches” is retracted.
Apparently that is not what they really *want* to do?
And that supervisor had some *balls* to say “you don’t have boobs”.
“The right of the people to be secure in their PERSONS, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated…”
Period! End of story. TSA is an illegal operation on its face. Americans, you DO NOT have the choice to say, “I’m willing to give up some liberty for security.” No without a Consitutional amendment. Those liberties are not optional, and nobody gets to decide for me or any other American that this OK. It’s not – no until the Constution is amended to delete the 4th Amendment.
Every TSA operative is a criminal. Period. Backed up by an illegal gang, with all of their power, yes. But they violate the supreme law of the land each and every time they perform one of these searches.
PLEASE wake up, Americans. You owe it to me, and your children, and your neighbors, and every other American.
My friend, I love your statement and understand what you are really meaning to say here, but—-AAAAKKK!!!!
P-lease do not even mention the idea of removing the 4th amendment!
You kidding?
You know where that would lead?
Again I am quite sure this is not what you are trying to suggest, you mean just the opposite. We “get you”. HOwever I want to suggest that to even say such a thing is to plant ideas in their heads. As it is, the Patriot Act and FISA both violate the 4th amendment and they are trying to undo our rights in other ways. At least we still have the original Constitution intact, let’s not suggest otherwise.
Thank you for your passion and your otherwise absolutely wonderful message, we appreciate you!
I agree also. This needs to be decided in court. Just as President Obama’s requirement that all Americans must purchase health insurance was found unconstitutional , this can also be found to be unconstitutional, but it has to get to court.
The fourth amendment does not allow for arbitrary exceptions imposed by government officials.
Unfortunately for all of us, I don’t think the fourth ammendment comes into play, as you’re implying your agreement to abide by the security regulations that have been put into place, and implying consent to the TSA searches when you purchase your ticket. Airports are private property, and airlines are private companies; I don’t agree with it, but I don’t believe it applies.
The TSA has inserted itself – without anyone’s permission – in between two parties to a contract: the traveler and the airline. They use force to do this. There is no way to choose a different provider of security. When force is used, consent is impossible. Consent requires being informed and not being coerced, so that one can make a free and independent decision. Since the TSA leaves people without a choice, there is no room for consent. Thus, no one has consented to the TSA.
Airports are actually, by and large, owned and operated by governments. Governments are indeed limited by the constitution.
Hello friends
Do you know, the sad and really sick, sick part of this is that all this charade is based on one big fat lie. There is no reason to fear the terrorists, IF the government is truly doing its job instead of pretending to be….
I am talking about a taboo subject, pre-911 intelligence and REPEATED warnings of an upcoming terrorist attack using planes to strike buildings.
Former FBI agent Ted Gunderson (whose life has been threatened fyi) posted an open letter to Bush and Ashcroft on the internet. You can read it here (click on the backup file, the original was removed from the web):
https://groups.yahoo.com/group/PatriotSaints/message/297
In this letter, he says that his colleague Michael Riconisciuto, issued MULTIPLE warnings about the 911 terrorist attack plan. Yet the FBI repeatedly not only turned down his warnings and ignored them, but they ridiculed him. Interestingly enough , on September 13, two days after the fatal attacks on 9-11, he was grilled by the FBI and Feds and accused of:
Being anti-FBI
Being anti-government, anti-American
Seeking attention
Other things
Does all this sound familiar?
We too, are implied as being Anti-Government, Anti-American, if all we do is to speak up against such “security” measures as are being faked at our airports.
Obviously, we must be “terrorists” if we don’t want to be searched.
Yeah right. It’s not that we don’t want to be searched, it’s that we want to be searched properly and within reason and *not violated* (sexually or in other ways), hello???
Fear ye, fear ye! So chant the government agents, again and again. Yet, they ignored and turned down very reliable pre-911 intelligence from our own FBI !
So is it the terrorists who are the threat here, or is it our own government? To trust or not to trust, that is the question. To believe or not to believe (the information above), that is your question and your free choice. Myself, I can only believe FBI agent Ted Gunderson, who continues to be vocal and speak out despite threats to his life and sabotages to his computer. A sign of real integrity if you ask me.
PS and another question I have asked myself, and it’s time to ask it on open forum:
Why are there all of a sudden all these terrorist attacks to the USA, where previously we didn’t hear of any? Or very few, if any?
Why all of a sudden these underwear and shoe bombers, why fear ye liquid water, why a man striking a federal building with his private plane…all of a sudden?
Nobody has to agree with me of course, but I really think this is all a calculated strategy, with a purpose in mind.
Having read the actual texts of post-911 legislation, and seeing gag orders in the Patriot Act (that’s right) and over-broad definitions of terrorism designed to crack down on free speech (multiple civil liberties organizations agree about that)….
I think the Feds are hiding their own crimes while masquerading as terrorist chasers. And we are among those so-called “terrorists” just for doing anything that threatens to expose their cause. “Either you are with us or you are against us” said Bush. That sums it up. SUbmit or be *dubbed* a terrorist, yourself. Such would seem to be the current mentality.
Again nobody has to agree with me, and I am perfectly happy to stand alone. But I know my facts and have done seven years of research.
Simple. Those things sell product and make billions for security/military suppliers and numerous other people. They also enable sick people who strive to control others, some on a global scale.
It’s that simple.
This is a pattern. The FBI has lied and protected their butts and MAYBE even been complicit in some of these events for decades. If anyone does no believe that, please keep it to yourself UNTIL you’ve read the research of Peter Lance and the experiences of Jayna Davis (Google them, along with “FBI”).
Sorry folks, but YOUR government is thoroughly corrupt and has been since before you were born. What are you prepared to do about it?
@George
You consent, because you make the choice to fly commercially. You could fly privately and not deal with the TSA, or you could take another means of transportation and not deal with the TSA. Granted, this may not be a practical option for many people, but the TSA isn’t stopping you on the sidewalk and forcing you to undergo a body scan, or knocking on your door at home and forcing you to endure an “enhanced” pat-down. That’s what the 4th was supposed to protect against.
Ridiculous. Do I consent to paying taxes because I choose to earn a living? Do I consent to having my wallet stolen and being beat up because I walked down a dark alley? Do I consent to GMO food (tho it’s not labeled as such) because I walked into the grocery store? Do I consent to the wars of aggression and the military empire because I didn’t succeed in getting the congress critter assigned me to vote against it?
Your analysis pretends that state coercion does not exist and that its reduction of my choices is not happening. That is its blind spot.
The restriction on unreasonable search and seizure applies to the government *everywhere*. Period.
My gosh, Ryan, do you actually believe that???
That’s like saying, “Well, you consented to this or that because you chose to get out of bed this morning and go to work. That was your choice, and by making it you consented to anything the goverment would like to do to you.”
Wow! PLEASE do some homework about the law, the Constitution and the history of bad goverment behavior. And PLEASE stop supporting anti-American points of view. Sheesh!
“The restriction on unreasonable search and seizure applies to the government *everywhere*. Period.”
You are correct, and I’m not disputing that. My argument is that the government is not forcing you to buy a ticket on a commercial flight, enter the airport, and go through security. You paid for the privilege to do that.
I do NOT agree with what they’re doing, and I do NOT consent to the searches. Because of that, I’ve been boycotting the TSA and the commercial airlines since they started making us take our shoes off, and prohibiting bottled water. I haven’t taken a commercial flight since then. I have traveled extensively by road and by private aircraft, and not once have I had a government agent track me down and insist on looking inside my shoes, or making me get a scan. Have you been having that problem?
I live in Chicago, and it’s the same thing with many of the major buildings downtown. I don’t want to deal with the security screening there, so I don’t go there.
I’m not saying I agree; I’m just saying I don’t think it’s a 4th amendment issue.
If the majority of travelers disagreed with it enough to stay out of the airports, the TSA would be gone.
Ryan, which part of “The right of the people to be secure in their PERSONS, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated…” do you not understand? Can we help you with that?
I’ll say this again: You do not have the right to choose, for yourself or anyone else, to give up these rights. They are specified by the Constitution – period. They are not optional. They are not a choice. We can not vote on them. They are the supreme law of the land. You have these rights whether you recognize them or not.
By the same token, the “majority of travelers” do not have the right to make such a decision or choice, either. These rights are not optional. They are guaranteed.
Since TSA is a government mandated operation, it most certainly falls squarely under the 4th Amendment. You would be correct if, for example, a privately owned and operated movie theater decided to put in similar security operations. You would then have the choice to frequent that establish or go down the street to a competitor. But that is not the situation we’re dealing with here.
Wow – it’s very difficult for me to understand your and millions of others’ timid acquiesence to the federal government’s complete trashing of the American Consitution that so many have given up so much to give us. Frankly, I find it shameful and tragic. And I firmly believe Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, John Adams, George Washington, Thomas Paine and so many others would be sickened and apalled if they could read this web page.
Shame on us.
Again, the government is always limited by constitutional restrictions. Period. I’m glad to hear you understand this.
This is all about government control & money in the pockets of many within our government, their friends & family. American citizens are being groomed to be sheep!! What greater invasion of privacy is there beyond porno scanners & groping the folds of one’s genitals(& their children’s)beyond a physical rape? Cavity searches are now possibly next after the groping sexual assault becomes the common norm. Some have serious control issues and sexual addictions… Surely they will be drawn to the TSA for employment now. It’s appalling that so many just fall in line and accept this abuse, when there are obvious other true safety measures that can be taken by our government without the trauma of this incredible invasion of privacy! Have you heard of “Fusion Centers?” There are around 72 in the US today in the guise of only fighting terrorists. I say “guise” because apparently they also gather information on all innocent, law abiding citizens, tracking spending habits, medical records, credit & all personal data. It’s certainly easy to imagine that those naked scanner images might be added to this personal file one day, if it’s not already happening. It seems that all this information would come to the benefit of the government(not citizens)when “Universal Healthcare” is in full swing. How can anybody trust the TSA? What logic is there in scanning pilots(as they initially did) when a pilot can crash the plane if desired? They say that images are not saved… Ridiculous! If a plane blows up, they won’t have images of all passengers to review? Legal action has already proven that a scanner trial run in a courthouse saved 30,000+ images! It’s also very rare to find the new, clear & detailed scanner images online. Most examples are scans that are far less invasive, rather than a view that clearly shows where one shaves their body, genital specifics, etc. There are millions that are not currently flying & funding our airlines due to these current sickening policies, which will financially harm our economy & the airline industry. Sadly, with numerous other financially destructive government policies in place, it’s beginning to look deliberate. When the value of the American dollar completes it’s fall from grace, be prepared for enormous individual financial suffering in the United States Of America, as costs of our basic needs soar! All the more reason for our growing Socialist government to save us, right!? The evidence is all around us… Do the research for yourself & open your eyes please! God help us all & please bless our once amazing country. Oh, & Jake, you can go & jump in a lake (to put it nicely)!! PS Google “Fusion Centers,” & research why Government affiliated Google records & saves all of your searches!
Perhaps what I don’t understand, is why you don’t believe you have the freedom to travel by some other means, and avoid consenting to a search.
Don’t put words in people’s mouths. It’s a tangential issue. I can avoid being mugged by never leaving my house, but that in no way justifies or excuses the activities of muggers. It is simply irrelevant to the moral issues at stake.
the only difference between the tsa and govt. regulations and the nazi is the uniform and the years between. The humiliation that the jews and german dissidents went through at the hands of the Nazi govt. is very similar to the humilation americans have to go through at the airports. If we stop flying maybe the money lost will make the airlines fight for the rights of their passengers. This is just shocking but unfortunately true that American is resorting to storm trooper tactics to stop terrorists. One more thing, what about the suitcases that are on the bottom of the plane. A person can use a cell phone to detinate one of them. Are they taking cell phones away too. Are they opening all suitcases as they go onto the conveyor belt before they are on the plane. This is a lie and the lie is the lack of safety when flying. There is no security, just fourth amendment violations. Shame….shame… shame….on all of us for allowing this to happen.
Ryan, if you believe that police (not TSA that I am aware of) are not breaking into peoples’ homes and conducting unwarranted, unreasonable searches and seizures, think again.
https://www.opednews.com/articles/OEN-Condemns-Police-Action-by-OpEdNews-Editorial-080903-316.html
Opednews has received more than a few reports, both photographic and verbal, of police entering homes and arresting/raiding where people are peaceably assembled in their own private residences. More above
Did you read about the “terrorist” organization Food Not Bombs having police enter their kitchens where they were preparing food for the homeless, being gunpointed by police and told to lie down on their bellies…for a full hour while police searched for non-existent “terrorist” evidence? THey confiscated kitchen knives as “evidence” and accused the organization of being a “Terrorist” entity. “We were not even displaying banners” commented one kitchen aide. And protests are legally protected free speech, but that’s beside the point.
The Patriot Act is alive and well. Welcome to America, The Police State. We are on Code Red.
I have one more question for Ryan:
Should people pay good money to be molested? Traumatized, in public? Is this what you stand for? To repeat, that we pay for it, besides?
Oh and I forgot to say. We are paying for it more than twice. We pay for it with our plane tickets, with our tax dollars. ANd if we refuse to be either nude photographed or molested, we are threatened with arrest and/or marched out the door with an $11,000 fine.
Who stands for this, and who do these people who stand for this…work for? I have to wonder, but I could be wrong so I won’t make accusations. But I do seriously question the morals and motives of anyone who says that we really ought to actually pay to be criminally violated, and to accept such a thing. Good lord!